tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4353391426294254427.post6371524723300255742..comments2024-03-17T03:37:02.014-04:00Comments on Dreams in the Lich House: War Versus Sport... and A Game of ThronesJohnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18031181424520125213noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4353391426294254427.post-64399064183948652322012-02-24T23:27:36.456-05:002012-02-24T23:27:36.456-05:00Sir Beebo,
I have tagged your blog on my own blog...Sir Beebo,<br /><br />I have tagged your blog on my own blog, The DM's Screen. Everything you need to know is on my latest post, including a short list of (fun) questions.<br /><br />I look forward to reading you answers - enjoy!Mark Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13002166292175980928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4353391426294254427.post-13141194767841488392012-02-24T20:41:01.647-05:002012-02-24T20:41:01.647-05:00Some Appendix N characters certainly would use dir...Some Appendix N characters certainly would use dirty tricks. Cudgel's entire skill set is dirty tricks.redbeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04600098550347299095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4353391426294254427.post-34126756051789713362012-02-24T09:02:26.907-05:002012-02-24T09:02:26.907-05:00Bronn's attitude towards combat is "war&q...Bronn's attitude towards combat is "war" and not "sport"; don't expect a fair fight, and do everything you can to tilt the table in your advantage to create an unbalanced situation.<br /><br />We can't tell from the literature or show whether those guys are evenly matched - I'd make Bronn a fairly high level fighter, based on how he handled the hill tribesmen in an earlier episode, and the knight would be lower level but armored.<br /><br />If this were 4E, they couldn't hit each other unless they were somewhat evenly matched because of how attack bonuses and AC scales in that game; otherwise Trey is right that 4E would support clever use of terrain (DMG pg 42) as long as the fight would otherwise work in the system.<br /><br />Sean B - your point extends even further into questioning D&D as literary emulation. Old school characters need to think in terms of meat shields, mercenaries, tricks like flaming oil, setting traps and ambushes, running away when necessary. <i>Things Bronn would do.</i> Would Appendix N characters use dirty tricks?<br /><br />It's a good question.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18031181424520125213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4353391426294254427.post-14481830871759203422012-02-24T09:00:27.378-05:002012-02-24T09:00:27.378-05:00IMO, ERB (John Carter, Tarzan, Carson) is romantic...IMO, ERB (John Carter, Tarzan, Carson) is romantic heroism, not "Old School."<br /><br />I like this comparison, Beedo. It's a good metaphor.Bigharahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232940345429292782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4353391426294254427.post-45923014597819691582012-02-24T08:59:36.186-05:002012-02-24T08:59:36.186-05:00Two words re: Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser:
Anra De...Two words re: Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser:<br /><br />Anra Devadoris.<br /><br />If someone challenges the Twain to a fight, they accept the fight.Sean Tait Bircherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439758029465341353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4353391426294254427.post-80105672989268815482012-02-24T08:41:05.238-05:002012-02-24T08:41:05.238-05:00@Sean B: John Carter? Maybe... Conan if he things ...@Sean B: John Carter? Maybe... Conan if he things the foe is worthy (not many of his foes, though)... but Fafrhd and the Gray Mouser??? No way! They wouldn't even accept the trial by combat, they would try to catch the dwarf while he falls and ransom him to whoever pays most.<br /><br />@Trey: Yes, but you would never fight 4 Sers while the crowd throws stones (an unbalanced encounter). This could happen in OD&D, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4353391426294254427.post-61813621016172829502012-02-24T08:20:38.897-05:002012-02-24T08:20:38.897-05:00What Bronn did was very tactical so I don't se...What Bronn did was very <i>tactical</i> so I don't see how it wouldn't fit the 4E model. I didn't see any expectation in the 4E rules that player's don't take advantage of opportunities or that they must operate under some honor restrictions. Though, since I've only played 4E all of one time (and found it a bit tedious, admittedly) my understanding may be incomplete.Treyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04647628467658839351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4353391426294254427.post-88180617598864783732012-02-24T07:35:06.193-05:002012-02-24T07:35:06.193-05:00Not that I play OD&D anyway (though Savage Wor...Not that I play OD&D anyway (though Savage Worlds does adopt a similar "don't expect balanced encounters" ethic), but I really have to disagree with which approach is really "old school." I mean, what's more "old school" than "about 100 years old?" If we really want the definition of old school, shouldn't we ask what the original "fighting-man" would do? Shouldn't we ask ourselves "WWJCD?"<br /><br />What would John Carter do?<br /><br />Would John Carter run and hide? No! Would John Carter stand and fight? Yes! Would John Carter use the terrain to his advantage -- yes, because he isn't an idiot -- but still fight honorably? Of course, and so would Conan, Fafhrd, and the Gray Mouser -- because they knew the joys of a good swordfight. <br /><br />Avoiding combat might be old school D&D, but it isn't Appendix N.Sean Tait Bircherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439758029465341353noreply@blogger.com